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The family was possibly descended from the earlier Dukes of Bavaria
[BAVK211] Agiluf (born c.670), Count in Vinzgau. He died c.726.
[BAVK221] Hado (born c.695), Count in Vinzgau. He died c.754.
[BAVK231] Gerold I (born c.725), Count in Vinzgau, married [SWAG232] Emma von Swabia (see SWABIA DUKEDOM).
[BAVK242] Hildegarde (born c.767, daughter of Gerold) married [CARO249] Charlemagne (see CAROLINGIAN HOUSE).
[ORLE211] Adrien (born c.760, son of Gerold), Count of Orleans, is described under ORLEANS COUNTY.
[BAVK241] Udalrich I (born c.763, son of Gerold), Count in Alsace (778-817), Count in Alpgau and Breisgau (780-81), Count in Thurgau (787), Count in Hegau (787/91).
[BAVK252] Hidda of Alpgau (daughter of Udalrich I) married [RATH201] March Count Hunfrid I, see RATHIEN COUNTY).